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It'sHJ |
20. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 14 2008, 7:52 PM EST
"I'm from the Midwest too & I agree with you. I was thinking about that when I heard the times it was going to be on. 10 is usually when I watch a bit of the news & go to bed. Is watching shows that late normal for the East & the West too I guess?"I think the 9:00 slot is good, Still like 8:00 better (my other show Boston Legal comes on during Jericho now), but for here it's good. Not that great as East & West coasts go, i agree. Semper Fi HJ 13 out of 13 found this valuable. Do you? |
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21. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 14 2008, 10:20 PM EST
cbs can kiss my big white butt if they are doing this junk to us jericho fan again i am happy scifi pick up jericho soo more season and no more short season again thanks alot cbs u are no good to me anoy more
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Four_Aces |
22. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 15 2008, 10:53 AM EST
"The three-year agreement gives Sci-Fi rights to the first and second seasons of the series, which includes an exclusive first run in basic cable for the first six months of the deal." (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i3a6ca747d7f74ddadfca32f091673dae)This means that they are going to repeat the first season, and these 7 episodes ad nauseam. If Sci-Fi is like the Canadian equivalent (called Space) then it is becoming packed with failed shows that they just keep repeating. If Sci-Fi were to pick the series up and make a third season it would not be for a few years until this contract expires. If they were interested then they would have signed an open ended contract for full rights, not just repeat rights. At least now we have more ammunition against CBS since this deal easily puts Jericho in the black considering the New low production costs. 18 out of 18 found this valuable. Do you? |
littlekitty |
23. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 16 2008, 12:32 AM EST
O.K, so much for optimism people. Yeah, it was short, not as dramatic, a little choppy, but seriously would you rather have no end? Come on, now. Enjoy the show!
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AlexaK |
24. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 16 2008, 3:56 AM EST
I enjoyed the show and was able to ignore some of the "fakeness" and the choppiness, and it still gave me that old "edge of my chair" feeling. Let's remember, they had to tell a lot of backstory on a tight budget. I do think we'll see something better next week.If we fans get disgusted so soon, we'll never get a third season, which is what we want, a third season as good as the first with as big a budget and more character interaction. Okay, so they've filmed two endings. Movies do that all the time. Some TV series have done the same. Didn't DALLAS film THREE versions of the solution to the Who Shot JR? puzzle? I think if we park ourselves in front of our TVs every week, no matter what, and continue to write in and let CBS know we're watching and we want better quality, they might just take that to heart. Remember, the actors and the crew need jobs too. Let's do it for them, even when the show is "choppy". I'm willing to sit through seven ho-hum episodes if they'll eventually give us a full season of good old Jericho suspense. 16 out of 16 found this valuable. Do you? |
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AlexaK |
25. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 16 2008, 4:06 AM EST
About the time slot. I live in the Central Time Zone, so it comes on at 9PM here. I used to live in Eastern Time after living in Central all my life, and getting used to being one hour later was a killer. Everything on TV was later, but yet, we still had to be at work for 8AM. And the nightly news was on at 11PM. When they had Monday night football, that was a killer because those games sometimes weren't over until well after 11PM, and sometimes there was overtime. Need I say more?So, yes, I can understand why the people who are seeing Jericho at 10PM would be complaining. Honestly, I'm just happy it's on the air at all. 14 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
SpaceTrucker |
26. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 16 2008, 8:36 AM EST
I'm not so crazy about them selling it to NBC to be aired on Sci-Fi, they are a dying channel now too. Since NBC took it over and started showing all kinds of crap on it, instead of keeping it's blockbuster shows on there, I barely watch it anymore, putting Jericho on there won't help it at all, they need to get the crap like wrestling back off of Sci-Fi and put some actual science fiction shows on that channel then I'll consider going back to it.I can see them now putting it on just before that stupid wrestling and screwing it up like they did with Eureka and cutting the show so the idiotic sports can have their slot and then some... No thank you, if anyone should pick it up, it should be something like Starz where it can be seen in it's entirety without the idiotic commercial interruptions and cuts hitting the floor for them. Take Stargate SG-1 for an example, the first several seasons that were broadcast on Showtime, were full length 45 minute episodes, once they hit Sci-Fi, NBC cut the crap out of them to put in commercials, now when you watch them their only like 41-42 minutes long, God forbid if they come one anytime around the slot they have that moronic sports crap on there! CBS is and always has been a has been channel and never should have gotten this show to begin with, it should have been on another channel to go up against those idiotic wanna-be reality shows and it would be along the lines of Stargate status already! If CBS was really serious about bringing it back, they would have done away with at least one of those moronic reality shows and put this in it's place! 16 out of 16 found this valuable. Do you? |
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hawaiianfan |
27. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 16 2008, 11:34 AM EST
there was NOTHING like the first 2 episodes of season 1! they rocked! I thought that the first eppy of season 2 didn't match the intensity and energy but it did answer some questions about what happened after the scene where jake said "NUTS!" but now the show is going in a WHOLE other direction....Now the military around taking over and they're not on their own anymore...i wonder where they're going with this? the whole plot that kept us on our toes was how they were gonna get food, energy, and information...now it's all been brought to them in one episode... I guess the bombing conspiracy is what's gonna be the direction of the show now.... I wish they would have done more to show how JAKE and EMILY got together...all you know is they're kissing and together... no romantic story to bring them together or anything after her fiance left. 6 out of 16 found this valuable. Do you? |
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TheBrunetteangel |
28. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 16 2008, 3:07 PM EST
Also folks if u have cox&DVR u can watch it Friday`s at 6pm Universal HD kay right now they`re on episode 8 so i`s not hard 2 catch up!!!!!
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TheBrunetteangel |
29. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 16 2008, 3:11 PM EST
Okay i have 1 thing 2 add if the rating shoot through the roof they`ll show the cliffhanger ending and order 15 new episodes not another season!& episodes doesn`t make a season if i remeber correctly and i do pres of CBs said they have orded 7 epi.and uif ratings are good at the end of the 7 they`ll do a spring finale get 15 episodes filmed and set for 08 fall!!!!
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BecksGram |
30. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 16 2008, 3:46 PM EST
I agree wholeheartedly. This season should be done at least as professionally as the first season.Come on folks, get the word out to all your friends so we can keep this quality show going! 15 out of 15 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Four_Aces |
31. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 17 2008, 9:12 AM EST
"O.K, so much for optimism people. Yeah, it was short, not as dramatic, a little choppy, but seriously would you rather have no end? Come on, now. Enjoy the show!"I may start to enjoy the show if it returns in Ep. 2 with a good story, but regardless I will continue to watch it and add my single to the ratings pool. All I was pointing out is that they have stacked the deck against hitting their numbers and 7 million viewers of Ep. 1, given it's very low budget (a few million at best), means that their original numbers are drastically unfair. They should have to revise for the new production quality, since it's all about profit margins not viewer totals. 14 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
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32. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 17 2008, 1:33 PM EST
I just hope that DVR and online viewing counts. I have watched all the vids on the website and been on the message boards. I just can't watch the original broadcast if it is on at 10. I have to get up way too early for work. I tivo'd it on tues and watched on Wed and then I watch the broadcast again when it aired last night. If this isn't enough for CBS then they don't deserve the fans because they obviously think we don't count.
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DKR1123 |
33. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 18 2008, 4:29 PM EST
"I just hope that DVR and online viewing counts. "Like I said earlier the Sunday paper(last weeks) did an article a Jericho's return. It said: ' "But I will say that when we came back, we had a core group, a core audience that we never lost. We also got this huge Internet fan base." People who view shows on iTunes or websites are considerably less valuable to networks, simply because it's difficult to turn that kind of popularity into profits. It's one of the reasons CBS is hesitant to throw "Jericho" an all-out welcome-back party.' here's the link if you want to read the whole article. http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/tv/15411086.html 14 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
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BecksGram |
34. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 18 2008, 5:11 PM EST
"I agree wholeheartedly. This season should be done at least as professionally as the first season.Sorry folks, I didn't mean to imply that I'm not happy that Jericho is back. I think what I was trying to say is that I would just like to be able to hear all of the dialogue since sometimes during the airing of the newest in the second season the mouths moved but I had no sound. Could well be my connection since this happens on one other show I watch. Either way, I just glad Jericho is back and I hope everyone sees to it that friends and family all watch so we can keep this quality show alive. I'm more than a little tired of shows like marry a millionaire bachelor etc. Sorry, I just see no value in such drivel. Oh yes! I'm old and not really into this kind of thing and find it difficult to find replies. So if you do happen to post a reply and I miss it, it's because I can't find it. 15 out of 15 found this valuable. Do you? |
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35. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 18 2008, 8:22 PM EST
I think that the short amount of time they had to film before the writer's stike , they did a good job. Its back and will get better. I', sure that the rest of the cast will be blended into future scenes. I wonder how many had made other commitments due to the cancellation.I was glad to see Mimi and Stanley.They are my favorite couple. 13 out of 13 found this valuable. Do you? |
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It'sHJ |
36. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 19 2008, 6:20 PM EST
"I think that the short amount of time they had to film before the writer's stike , they did a good job. Its back and will get better. I', sure that the rest of the cast will be blended into future scenes. I wonder how many had made other commitments due to the cancellation.Glad they both back as well. I'm still wondering about Gail's character though. She seemed passionate about the show during the campaign, but now i hear rumors she has been trying to quit. Semper Fi HJ 15 out of 15 found this valuable. Do you? |
msdesmarais |
37. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 19 2008, 8:41 PM EST
Think you guys and gals need to relax. It was only one episode. That being said, there were a slew of assumptions made in this thread in particular. Are you a CBS executive Four Aces?? Was curios how you know what was spent making the episode versus what may have been made from it?? Just something to consider... when you assume you make an Ass out of yoU not ME. 14 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Four_Aces |
38. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 19 2008, 8:44 PM EST
Well Ep. 2 has just aired and I am glad to see that is was more like Season 1 than the last episode. Sure the film quality at times drops off during some shots, but the story was much more continuous and the acting was better as well. Hey, they even managed to find a steady-cam for most of the shots! If the numbers hold at 6.5M+ viewers CBS cannot make a reasonable argument for cancellation.From the above mentioned story "simply because it's difficult to turn that kind of popularity into profits." I guess this means that CBS is now going to stop monetarizing their shows then? They charge, show banner or pop-up ads, and collect viewer's information via embedded cookies that they make money off of. This is just a load of B.S. to tout the party line just like they are doing with the writers. Oh, we don't make any money from it so we won't really pay for it. From the 4th Quarter 2006 Earnings Call (to investors) "Beyond the cell phone we continue to extend our hit content to interactive platforms everywhere including iTunes, Comcast, Yahoo!, YouTube and others. We have also set up an investment fund and are investing in a variety of companies that will lead us into this space as well. There has been so much activity on the Internet front already it's hard to believe that this is just the beginning." Q2 of 2007 "With this new online network, we're following our audience. We're putting our content where they already are, giving it to them in a way that they want to see it. Importantly, all of these sites are ad-supported, tapping into that fast-growing segment in the Internet space. The revenue is still relatively small for now, but it has begun and will continue." Their lies are transparent and frankly insulting but coming from Hollywood I guess you cannot expect much. BTW relatively small in in relation CBS Corp Mareket Cap of $17B (yep Billion). ;) 15 out of 15 found this valuable. Do you? |
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msdesmarais |
39. RE: Season 2 - CBS excuses for Cancellation
Feb 19 2008, 9:14 PM EST
Its no secret that the 'free' networks are not doing as well as they had been. The writers didn't strike over shows being cancelled but because they wanted a bigger piece of the content from the Internet, cell phones, etc. Fact of the matter is, with cable [sucks] and satellite, there are more choices. More choices = less dollars for the 'free' networks as viewers are lost to paid networks. Quoting earnings statements does nothing to bolster your insinuations, which I might add were based off one show. Lets assume that they are not putting much stock into these 7 episodes. The reason may be that CBS has no intentions of doing more than 7 episodes. No one in their right mind would dump millions into a business with the intention of closing it 7 days after the business opened... would they? They didn't have to give us anything so, enjoy it while it lasts is all I am saying. 13 out of 13 found this valuable. Do you? |
