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patton610 patton610 |
project boxcar
Feb 20 2008, 12:27 PM EST in light of project boxcar or bockscar that being the 2nd plane to carry the 2nd atomic bomb to nagasaki I think texas will side with Columbus when the 2nd nuclear strike hits the east. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bockscar I have not read or watched any leaked episodes, but am a history major and this seems logical to me, with nature of the show and the aims of cheyenne. 8 out of 15 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Feb 20 2008, 12:58 PM EST What about this.....since bocks car was the "2nd" bomb run...and Valente doesn't know that the jericho bomb is still viable and truly in play...perhaps that means he actually had a reserve soviet nuke/domestic bomb stashed for the next/ 2nd phase of the take over.....perhaps we are "nuke to nuke" sorta speak...or, if not nuclear, then viral/airborne biological.....being that they make reference strickly to the east fighting a virus on the news ticker.....boxcar could just as easily refer to the train that was stopped...we didn't see what exactly was in it when it rammed the tank......why was it enroute to Jericho...was it to beat or meet the ASA Prez there......the 3 hour visit prior to arrival at Jericho was dropped....why? did not the boxcar make it there.... hmmmmm,need more coffee...... 12 out of 15 found this valuable. Do you? |
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tamijo tamijo |
RE: project boxcar
Feb 20 2008, 1:00 PM EST wasn't the train tied in with the attack from newburn? 13 out of 13 found this valuable. Do you? |
 DuncanONeil |
RE: project boxcar
Feb 21 2008, 9:40 AM EST Valente knows full well that the bomb is out there. One of the reasons he is looking for Sarah. Also there is no solid evidence that he is a bad guy. 13 out of 13 found this valuable. Do you? |
 Corvus221 |
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Mar 9 2008, 11:39 AM EDT "Valente knows full well that the bomb is out there. One of the reasons he is looking for Sarah. Also there is no solid evidence that he is a bad guy."What if Hawkins IS the bad guy? It would make for an interesting plot twist 9 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DuncanONeil |
RE: project boxcar
Mar 9 2008, 5:02 PM EDT "What if Hawkins IS the bad guy? It would make for an interesting plot twist"A US agent that goes undercover to root out the plot and stop it, that is in the aftermath helping to restore the status quo in, at least the town of Jericho, is actually undercover with the bad guys to ensure that said plot does come to fruition. Hmm? That gives rise to the question, who really are the bad guys because Rob is surely not working to the benefit of Cheyenne! 14 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DuncanONeil |
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Mar 9 2008, 6:28 PM EDT "in light of project boxcar or bockscar that being the 2nd plane to carry the 2nd atomic bomb to nagasaki I think texas will side with Columbus when the 2nd nuclear strike hits the east.What are the aims of Cheyenne? 10 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
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patton610 patton610 |
RE: project boxcar
Mar 9 2008, 9:34 PM EDT their aims would be to reunify the country under Cheyenne. Columbus was originally targeted but missed, and this became the new u.s. capital. In anycase the real meaning of the project has come out 11 out of 15 found this valuable. Do you? |
 channahleah |
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Mar 9 2008, 10:45 PM EDT "Valente knows full well that the bomb is out there. One of the reasons he is looking for Sarah. Also there is no solid evidence that he is a bad guy."Sure there is solid evidence Valente is a bad guy. Remember when he tells Major Beck that Sarah Mason never worked for the Government?? Also, Valente sends in 'Ravenwood' to take care of the day-to-day activities. We know about Ravenwood... 16 out of 16 found this valuable. Do you? |
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douglas413 douglas413 |
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Mar 9 2008, 11:07 PM EDT "in light of project boxcar or bockscar that being the 2nd plane to carry the 2nd atomic bomb to nagasaki I think texas will side with Columbus when the 2nd nuclear strike hits the east.As per the show BOXCAR is orders to kill all agents connect with plot To Bomb the United States from within. Jennings & Rall / RAVENWOOD [ ASA ] Goverment . Valenta is the known factor in the bombs, which Hawkins and Maj. Beck know, to lie about truth, when it comes to Knowing Sarh Mason. 14 out of 15 found this valuable. Do you? |
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douglas413 douglas413 |
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Mar 9 2008, 11:21 PM EDT "Valente knows full well that the bomb is out there. One of the reasons he is looking for Sarah. Also there is no solid evidence that he is a bad guy."Wrong, Valente is definally a bad guy. Because , He is one of the old { USA} Homeland Security, That aquired the Bombs from Russia. He tried to meet with Sarah in Nebraska. Which, Hawkins saw on the satilite feed from his labtop, which, he put on a PDA , Which Maj. Beck saw later. 13 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
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douglas413 douglas413 |
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Mar 9 2008, 11:34 PM EDT "in light of project boxcar or bockscar that being the 2nd plane to carry the 2nd atomic bomb to nagasaki I think texas will side with Columbus when the 2nd nuclear strike hits the east.Please go to first Season view all epicodes, this will help you to know the BAD GUYS. Hawkins is one of the GOOD GUYS VELIENTA is VERY BAD = = Trator to both United States of America and Allid States of America HE has his own Ajinda. 14 out of 15 found this valuable. Do you? |
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douglas413 douglas413 |
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Mar 10 2008, 12:00 AM EDT "wasn't the train tied in with the attack from newburn?"Yes the Train was from NEWBURN. The train had Morters and Men There was no proof they had any Nucular Bombs on the train. Project BOXCAR : Elemation of all Agents, that , Know about the nucular bombs, brought into the United States from Russa . Plus Sarah was told by VELENTE To kill all in her group [ SARAH was a TRIPLE AGENT for VELENTE to elmanate all Group agents ] That new about the Bombs. 14 out of 15 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DuncanONeil |
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Mar 10 2008, 9:26 AM EDT "their aims would be to reunify the country under Cheyenne. Columbus wasReunify?! They are not doing that! In fact they appear to clearly be establishing a newly bordered nation-state. "The real meaning of the project?" What was that? That is presuming you are speaking of the Continuity of Government report. If not that what project? 12 out of 12 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DuncanONeil |
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Mar 10 2008, 9:32 AM EDT "Sure there is solid evidence ValenteSarah's operation was an undercover operation. Thomas may believe that revealing her connection to the Government may be harmful, either because of the covert nature of the operation or because he has identified her as a terrorist. In the first revealing such knowledge could endanger himself, in the second raise questions as to why the orders are as stated and endanger tom's current position. We have only seen one small segment of Ravenwood that may be the only bad part of the group. Don't forget Goetz is stealing from his employer. 13 out of 13 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DuncanONeil |
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Mar 10 2008, 9:42 AM EDT " As per the show BOXCAR is orders to kill all agents connect with plotWe know that J&R was commisioned to produce the report we were shown. We do not know, although the report itself is evidence, J&R is the mastermind in the plot. Evidence exists that a third party got their hands on the report and likely used it as a basis for their plot, "John Smith" told us that. Known factor in the bombs is wide open - Rob is a known factor in the bombs. I can still not assign any measure of responsibility to Thomas, yet I remain very careful about everything he says or does. What does that mean, I am suspicious of him. One of the reasons I pay so much attention to what he says or does. Beck does not know abot Tom and the bombs, just that he lied to him. Not a good position to be in with members of the US military. The question was not did Tom know Sarah but did Sarah ever work for the US Government. 12 out of 12 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DuncanONeil |
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Mar 10 2008, 9:48 AM EDT " Wrong, Valente is definally a bad guy. Because , He is one of the old { USA}Are you part of the Jericho boards? I have a listing there about Valente and what we know. Covers more than you put in here. Being part of HS does not make you a bad guy. HS did not aquire the material from anywhere, that was the CIA. Valente was not at the planned meet with Sarah, he met with the shooters that were at the meet. Obviously he had a hand in the meet, but that meet did have the appearance of a SWAT team taking down an armed and dangerous felon. This could have been the plan in the meet. Heck Sarah could have thought she was talking to someone else! 10 out of 12 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DuncanONeil |
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Mar 10 2008, 10:07 AM EDT " Please go to first Season view all epicodes, this will help you to knowSeason 1 Provides even less reason to quantify Thomas as a bad guy. We do not know very much about Valente. What do we really know about him. He either is a cop or office spook. Or is in DHS directly. (This appears to have been in Nuclear Detection Office) Analysis places him third level down He needs a cane to get around. He had something specific going on with Sara. Robs handler. Does he trust Rob. Or is it a separate op? He was willing to tell Sara he would pay her for the "package" Yet he brought shooters to the meet. (The top dog would not be at such an action) Either he thought Sara was trying to trap him. Or he thought Sara was rouge. Planned to kill or capture her? He was part of the video conference at Camp Liberty, but not the lead He appears to have some authority within Cheyenne Government Reports that a terorist is in the vicinity of Jericho Appears capable of issuing orders to both Ravenwood and ASA troops Primary concern appaers to be securing Sarah and what she is willing to sell Identifies Sarah as a terrorist Lied to Maj Beck regarding Sarah's employment by the US Government We are pretty much at the same place with Valente as we were when we met Rob. Although the last item tilts the scale a bit towards bad. Unless it is to protect his cover in ASA! 13 out of 14 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DuncanONeil |
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Mar 10 2008, 10:08 AM EDT " Yes the Train was from NEWBURN. The train had Morters and MenLot of guessing in that posting! 13 out of 13 found this valuable. Do you? |
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tamijo tamijo |
RE: project boxcar
Mar 10 2008, 11:04 AM EDT question, was valetene actually lieing when he said Sarah was not employed by the US goverment, we know she was undercover or atleast working with Hawkins, but was she employed by the same agency as hawkins? I can't remember if she was at that meeting 12 out of 13 found this valuable. Do you? |