"I'm begining to think the writers are watching the news some of the people are starting to remind me of real ones. We have Valetine (Cheney), Jennings& rall ( Haliburtin) Ravenwood ( Wasn't there a security firm in hot water in Iraq not to long ago) this may be fiction but i'm starting to see quite a few comparables"

"what is on the plates?"

"I don't want you to take this wrong. My husband was a good shot in high school (they actually taught it there!) I suppose that when anyone thinks of guns in high schools now, they immediately run a little film in their heads of Columbine. It would be interesting, wouldn't it, to trace how that change came about. My, my, my. Imagine teachers teaching shooting! Imagine the students respecting them! Was this a rural school ? No, it was Fairfax High School in Los Angeles, right in the middle of Hollywood, basically. And I don't think it was unusual. Of course he was also ROTC, probably a no-no today as well. As for me, I picked up a .22 and shot it when I was 5 and nobody else was around. I aimed at a chicken coop. That's my sole experience with shooting, except at shooting galleries. My husband doesn't shoot anymore, but he is the steadiest photographer. Apparently our daughter has inherited his abilities.

But the thing I was imagining is a problem with arming yourself and trying to hold off illegitimate authority is the example of Waco, where pure legal force was brought to bear on recalcitrant people. Once that force gets moving, it is a steam-roller.

It is very hard to leverage a society into a position of balance when things are so out of balance, as I fear they are at the moment. I recently saw the episode of Jericho called "One Man's Terrorist" in which the banker winds up in the site of the sniper policeman who wants to take him out for holding a mayor hostage. His grievance is legitimate, and he never deliberately shot the mayor either, but the policeman wants to break the standoff by force, and later tries to get the man when he leaves the building (but the kinder policeman simply cuffs him).

I think the state of things is just this: we are learning what our low status is every time we board an airplane. Private plane flyers have status that regular Americans don't.

Guns are irrelevant?"

"Obama does have George Soros (and his many "organizations" ) supporting him. Soros has spent millions to make sure HIS "party" gets in. "

"I live in missouri, Myself and My wife have take classes to be proficent
with our guns. Out of 300 my wife shouts 275 . Myself out of 300 I shoot 256
Which is not bad. Take time to practice. Find yourself a good Instructure
they will help you proficent contact your Sheriff Department. I think
they could help with you find an Instructor.

Look into you Telephone Book for Gun shops and inquire into Training.

Thank you for your coments"

"I don't want you to take this wrong. My husband was a good shot in high school (they actually taught it there!) I suppose that when anyone thinks of guns in high schools now, they immediately run a little film in their heads of Columbine. It would be interesting, wouldn't it, to trace how that change came about. My, my, my. Imagine teachers teaching shooting! Imagine the students respecting them! Was this a rural school ? No, it was Fairfax High School in Los Angeles, right in the middle of Hollywood, basically. And I don't think it was unusual. Of course he was also ROTC, probably a no-no today as well. As for me, I picked up a .22 and shot it when I was 5 and nobody else was around. I aimed at a chicken coop. That's my sole experience with shooting, except at shooting galleries. My husband doesn't shoot anymore, but he is the steadiest photographer. Apparently our daughter has inherited his abilities.

But the thing I was imagining is a problem with arming yourself and trying to hold off illegitimate authority is the example of Waco, where pure legal force was brought to bear on recalcitrant people. Once that force gets moving, it is a steam-roller.

It is very hard to leverage a society into a position of balance when things are so out of balance, as I fear they are at the moment. I recently saw the episode of Jericho called "One Man's Terrorist" in which the banker winds up in the site of the sniper policeman who wants to take him out for holding a mayor hostage. His grievance is legitimate, and he never deliberately shot the mayor either, but the policeman wants to break the standoff by force, and later tries to get the man when he leaves the building (but the kinder policeman simply cuffs him).

I think the state of things is just this: we are learning what our low status is every time we board an airplane. Private plane flyers have status that regular Americans don't.

Guns are irrelevant?"

"I like the idea of being able to use .45s and/or .410s, which would expand the uses on one gun. I checked their site and found that they are out of stock, but could be ordered. From what I was told on other sites, they sell VERY well. But I would still like to see one - and hold it - before having to order one."

"I hear ya Flagtag,
I like to know how a weapon feels and how it handles before I commit to buy it."

"I'm begining to think the writers are watching the news some of the people are starting to remind me of real ones. We have Valetine (Cheney), Jennings& rall ( Haliburtin) Ravenwood ( Wasn't there a security firm in hot water in Iraq not to long ago) this may be fiction but i'm starting to see quite a few comparables"