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moeman32
moeman32
Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading tv
Mar 6 2008, 7:50 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 6 2008, 7:50 PM EST
hello everyone,

the other day a friend of mine was curious to see the numbers to jericho as she was wondering how it compared to her favorite show, supernatural in terms of average amount of viewers. below are two links, and after seeing the difference in numbers, i want to yell at the top of my lungs: WHAT THE HECK!?

this first link is for jericho's stats (updated weekly)

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/02/10/nielsen-ratings-for-jericho/2626

and now for supernatural:

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/11/18/supernatural-ratings-2007-2008/1814


the numbers speak for themselves there, and as for interesting facts:

this show exported really well in australia at least, as although the show is egocentric the issue it deals with is not. here comes along a refreshing honestly suspenseful drama that is intelligent in both scripting and acting, and we are insulted by having it off the air again.

as a big fan of jericho, i have trouble understanding why CBS is pulling the plug especially considering it was consistently getting over half the viewer share each episode!

place it against a (one would assume) higher production cost of a show like Supernatural which brings in less viewers on the CW, makes you wonder why Supernatural is on the air while Jericho is getting axed...

for good measure lets see another few station ratings:

FOX:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/04/top-fox-primetime-shows-feb-25-mar-2/2836

NOTE: jericho would be somewhere in the middle

CW
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/04/top-cw-primetime-shows-feb-25-mar-2/2833
NOTE: jericho would be their biggest draw.

think about it, tell me what you think or if you can answer this:

So why the %&&% is this show getting cancelled?
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moeman32
moeman32
1. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading tv
Mar 6 2008, 7:59 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 6 2008, 7:59 PM EST
note:

that is not to say supernatural is bad, i like that show too, but its just interesting to see cw's biggest grabber compared to jericho.
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hjason
2. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading
Mar 9 2008, 8:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 9 2008, 8:04 AM EDT
funny huh?
there have been a lot of great shows in the years which get canceled.
and in return useless garbage gets put in it's place.
look at abc it is nothing but romance and love shows.
garbage all garbage.
fox has action some romance and am idle which is garbage and should not be on the air.
but for the most part fox has great shows.
now cbs has cane and it has jericho that is it if they do away with those shows they have nothing because it is going to take a remarkable show to replace them.
and nbc has bionic woman er and life.
if they don't bring them back they are done.
so every network has something different, and if they all cancel what brings them oney and what we are interested in then we will play our consoles and watch movies on dvd instead, and blue ray.
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moeman32
moeman32
3. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading
Mar 9 2008, 9:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 9 2008, 9:08 AM EDT
"funny huh?
there have been a lot of great shows in the years which get canceled.
and in return useless garbage gets put in it's place.
"
good point but i find it oddly disturbing that these networks pour thousands into getting those ratings, then dont evn bother using them properly OR looking at them. all i hear about is supernatural which has half the fan base and its just as good as jericho, yet jericho gets barely a whisper?

its a bit sad. and confusing. wth are these tv execs being paid for? to sit on their hands? they get multi million dollar salaries to make the wrong decisions constantly!

AND to top it off like you said, if it wasnt for bootlegging i would be unaware of the goings on as ch10 here in aus has only left us in the middle of season 1 and wont bring it back.

so it really "irons my shirt" when this happens, but youre right, a lot of great shows get cancelled and its because theyre afraid of their investments i guess, but with 6-7mil ppl watching every episode, wth r u fearing?!
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channahleah
channahleah
4. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading
Mar 9 2008, 2:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 9 2008, 2:19 PM EDT
I guess we know 'which brain' the television execs are thinking with, to put such garbage on the air. 15  out of 15 found this valuable. Do you?    

douglas413
5. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading
Mar 9 2008, 2:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 9 2008, 2:59 PM EDT
"I guess we know 'which brain' the television execs are thinking with, to put such garbage on the air."
Yea, I thank that the CBS Ex's want to keep his wife's pet project
[ BIG BROTHER ] [ which she said " NOW THIS GOOD TELEVISION ]
I do not think is good at all. Let's have more JERICHO , less GARBAGE
other word [ BIG BROTHER ] should have canceled 5 seasons ago.
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douglas413
6. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading
Mar 9 2008, 3:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 9 2008, 3:09 PM EDT
"I guess we know 'which brain' the television execs are thinking with, to put such garbage on the air."
Yea, I think the CBS EX's wants his wafe's show [ BIG BROTHER ]
is more important than JERICHO. [ Big Brother ] should been cancelled
5 Seasons ago. Long live JERICHO , even if it may have to swich networks.
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Dogperson
7. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading tv
Mar 9 2008, 5:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 9 2008, 5:02 PM EDT
WHY doesn't another network pick up this show? Especially a cable network, where it would deliver really good comparitive ratings? I just don't get it! CW's a good place for it, SciFi, FX. It worked fine with Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Have the producers talked to other networks? Anybody know?

--- Laurie
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douglas413
8. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading tv
Mar 9 2008, 6:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 9 2008, 6:20 PM EDT
"WHY doesn't another network pick up this show? Especially a cable network, where it would deliver really good comparitive ratings? I just don't get it! CW's a good place for it, SciFi, FX. It worked fine with Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Have the producers talked to other networks? Anybody know?

--- Laurie"
I agree with you.
The production co. [ NOT CBS ] is responsable for the decisions as per;
CBS web site . Who are they kidding. I think JUCTION 97 PRODUCTIONS
can find a better Network that can spend more time on Surperb Enertainment
With Quality Content . NOT " REALLITY GARBAGE " That is stated as
GOOD TELEVISION [ BIG BROTHER 9 ] BOO HISS
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douglas413
9. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading
Mar 9 2008, 7:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 9 2008, 7:37 PM EDT
"I guess we know 'which brain' the television execs are thinking with, to put such garbage on the air."
The power to be [ CBS ] have their own goof ball thinking.
That, They could shove crap at us and, We would like it.
I think that We [[ Supporters of JERICHO ]] . Will keep them
on the Straight on nawarow.

The only thing is that they [[ CBS Pres ]] is thinking with his PRICK..
Excuse me that make me mad. There is too much " Reality Programing"
On CBS . . . . . .
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dawkici
10. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading
Mar 9 2008, 7:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 9 2008, 7:54 PM EDT
"funny huh?
there have been a lot of great shows in the years which get canceled.
and in return useless garbage gets put in it's place.
look at abc it is nothing but romance and love shows.
garbage all garbage.
fox has action some romance and am idle which is garbage and should not be on the air.
but for the most part fox has great shows.
now cbs has cane and it has jericho that is it if they do away with those shows they have nothing because it is going to take a remarkable show to replace them.
and nbc has bionic woman er and life.
if they don't bring them back they are done.
so every network has something different, and if they all cancel what brings them oney and what we are interested in then we will play our consoles and watch movies on dvd instead, and blue ray."
True true what u said about 'garbage'. I just finished watching last Tuesday's espisode, and was jumping out of my chair. The public has no clue on what I would consider 'good television'.Jericho really makes you think. CBS can take their ratings and do 'you know what with them'. Lets hope they bring it back for a new season....
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douglas413
11. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading
Mar 9 2008, 9:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 9 2008, 9:05 PM EDT
"True true what u said about 'garbage'. I just finished watching last Tuesday's espisode, and was jumping out of my chair. The public has no clue on what I would consider 'good television'.Jericho really makes you think. CBS can take their ratings and do 'you know what with them'. Lets hope they bring it back for a new season...."
Thanks, If we do not stand up for GOOD PROGRAMING

We will have Inferior, Sub-Standard, BAD. . BAD. . . PROGRAMING
that they [ CBS ] Said is good TELEVISION because of the [CBS] PRES.,
Spouse thinks the show is quality. That is the ONLY reason the show
still existed this long. This is HER pet project.
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douglas413
12. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading
Mar 9 2008, 9:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 9 2008, 9:38 PM EDT
"I guess we know 'which brain' the television execs are thinking with, to put such garbage on the air."
I wish CBS was watching, the people that does not like REALITY TELIVISON.

Have you noticed that [ BIG BROTHER ] is on 3 Days a week.
[ SUNDAY ] [ TUESDAY ] [ WEDNESDAY ] CBS thinks that WE like all the BULL
SHIT. .

I would prefur JERICHO , THE UNIT , CAIN in that order.

CANCEL ALL REALITY TELIVISON . That is my opion.
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DaddyGrune
DaddyGrune
13. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading
Mar 10 2008, 12:10 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 10 2008, 12:10 AM EDT
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Dogperson
14. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading tv
Mar 10 2008, 8:15 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 10 2008, 8:15 AM EDT
Carol Barbee mentioned after last year's up-fronts that some cable networks said they'd LOVE to have Jericho's ratings. I gather she & other producers haven't taken it any further or we would have heard? Hate to think they've lost interest but maybe they're tired of the battle & have gone on to other stuff. We're the losers.

TV went down the toilet when big corps. bought networks. They put bean-counters in charge & demanded growth growth growth along with proportionate profits. How do you get that? Put programs on the air that cost as little as possible & appeal to people who can't read; there are more of them than we who like good drama. With accountants rather than creative people in charge, networks do not let a show build an audience -- some of them need time to catch on but bring big rewards if given it. The Dick Van Dyke Show's a good example -- DISMAL ratings at first. Instead of axing it in 4 episodes, the network let viewers discover it:. They ended up with a HUGE hit, many Emmys & one of tv's classic shows. Ahem, CBS -- are you listening??
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moeman32
moeman32
15. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading tv
Mar 10 2008, 9:13 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 10 2008, 9:13 AM EDT
"Carol Barbee mentioned after last year's up-fronts that some cable networks said they'd LOVE to have Jericho's ratings. I gather she & other producers haven't taken it any further or we would have heard? Hate to think they've lost interest but maybe they're tired of the battle & have gone on to other stuff. We're the losers.

TV went down the toilet when big corps. bought networks. They put bean-counters in charge & demanded growth growth growth along with proportionate profits. How do you get that? Put programs on the air that cost as little as possible & appeal to people who can't read; there are more of them than we who like good drama. With accountants rather than creative people in charge, networks do not let a show build an audience -- some of them need time to catch on but bring big rewards if given it. The Dick Van Dyke Show's a good example -- DISMAL ratings at first. Instead of axing it in 4 episodes, the network let viewers discover it:. They ended up with a HUGE hit, many Emmys & one of tv's classic shows. Ahem, CBS -- are you listening??"
a perfect example of this phenomenon (a few actually)

sienfeld,
x files (the 90s most biggest cult hit, EVER as acknowledged by ALL critics almost dint get a second season)


and thats all i can think of right now.

but the question is, how does one go from a ratings grabber to calling it a flop?

jericho has a huge following? wat logic is cbs using/ despite big brother, thats only 3 hrs a week. u have 6 days and 21 hrs left over. whats it being filled with?

im from australia and am a media management graduate and filmographer, and evn i dont get how if its about maximising profits that come from the advertising itself why CBS want to end the show?

maybe theres some inter-office politics we are not aware of?

as a side note, being an arab myself its nice to see the writers didnt take the easy route of having the bomb plot be middle eastern. this current plot is much more interesting and we leave the arab actors working on 24 thank you. :)

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moeman32
moeman32
16. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading tv
Mar 10 2008, 9:20 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 10 2008, 9:20 AM EDT
ps: what cbs dont realise is they have tapped into a very cult specific market, which is every channels dream: to get a target audience specific to a show, rather than a broad array. this is better for advert targetting as a network meaning they can then say, "well most of our viewers are babyboomers/gen x'ers, new gen etc and they like consoles/cars/books so we are targeting specific advertising if you want to buy a block of adverts!"

or at least, thats what SHOULD be happening.

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douglas413
17. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading tv
Mar 10 2008, 12:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 10 2008, 12:06 PM EDT
It is too bad the Network [ CBS ] Does not Repect any of their shows,
Production staff, actors. Just because of the numbers, The numbers are not
everything. That is why I voice my opion.

Why, Do not CHECK with the PEOPLE that, have a brain.
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Sarfatti
Sarfatti
18. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading tv
Mar 10 2008, 2:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 10 2008, 2:51 PM EDT
moeman32
Actually it was worse for Seinfeld than that. The TV executives were so leery that a show "about nothing" would be popular that they only commissioned FOUR EPISODES at first! I think Jerry Seinfeld showed great integrity when he decided to end the show after 9 years, instead of getting to the point where they had to "jump the shark" again and again.
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ladybug8
19. RE: Ratings for jericho and some comparisons to other current, leading tv
Mar 16 2008, 6:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 16 2008, 6:49 PM EDT
I would say that CBS cancelled Jericho because 1)Either they were told to by the "Brass" to make room for the election news or 2) they are too close to the truth on what is going on in the world and somebody don't want the story told. Let's face it people, the guys in power don't want us "little people" (Peons) to start thinking! Good heavens, that would be a disaster if the nation started to think and came to the right conclusions. Or hasn't anyone noticed that the primary elections are squewed to fit what the powerful want and not really what the people want. For example, the Republican primary ballot was printed with about 10 names running for president - in Jan in Florida - and how many have you heard about? I'll guarantee it won't be more than 2 or three. The news media only covers the Democrat or Republican candidates. Ron Paul was never mentioned until late December/early Jan and nobody knew anything about him unless they were involved in his campaign. That should be enough explanation on why Jericho was cancelled.
Now that the show is back on the air, let's write in again to the network and ask for the date when the new season of the story will air in the fall That would be a definitive answer as to whether it will still be on in the fall or not. I, too, rarely watch CBS, especially on Monday nights. And I can't stand the reality shows, either. Survivor is about as fake as it can be, and Trading Places is plain stupid. There are others I could mention, but won't. Game shows and good family shows are more to my likeing. Jericho is a modern day Bonanza and is following the theme of "Red Dawn". A thinking person's show.
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