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Posted Anonymously	Well, whatever's going on... Dec 17 2006, 1:13 PM EST ... it sure is obvious that the average American is used to living in DisneyWorld and is in for a rude awakening whenever reality ("terrorist" attack/ Hurricane Katrina / gang violence) interrupts their little fantasy world. Most people are probably completely unprepared for ANY emergency. Personal situational awareness in Jericho is very low, and town security sucks. - and it's almost unbelievable how much time is spent _getting drunk_. ?! Post reply 10 out of 18 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: None
ThinkingGuy!	1. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Dec 17 2006, 1:18 PM EST "... it sure is obvious that the average American is used to living in DisneyWorld and is in for a rude awakening whenever reality ("terrorist" attack/ Hurricane Katrina / gang violence) interrupts their little fantasy world. Most people are probably completely unprepared for ANY emergency. Personal situational awareness in Jericho is very low, and town security sucks. - and it's almost unbelievable how much time is spent _getting drunk_. ?!" True, but have you ever been through a diaster...that's what happens ,like it or not , people like to be numb to forget. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
secyatlaw	2. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Dec 24 2006, 10:45 PM EST I agree as a nation we are not prepared for survival in the event of any sort of disruption in electricity, information services, food supply. Very sad and sobering. However, what's the cure? Not many young people in urban centers would find value in learning archery, botany, or other survival tools! Post reply 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
ThinkingGuy!	3. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Dec 27 2006, 9:56 PM EST "I agree as a nation we are not prepared for survival in the event of any sort of disruption in electricity, information services, food supply. Very sad and sobering. However, what's the cure? Not many young people in urban centers would find value in learning archery, botany, or other survival tools!" The more urban you are ....the more vulnerable you are. Young people think the perks will always be there and will be in for a shock if they arn't. Learn the joy of all you mentioned. Post reply 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
General_Ashnak	4. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Dec 31 2006, 7:28 AM EST "The more urban you are ....the more vulnerable you are. Young people think the perks will always be there and will be in for a shock if they arn't. Learn the joy of all you mentioned. " It is very true that it is a true folly to believe that all we are currently privileged to have will be there forever. Get out into the country, go hiking, camping, white water rafting. Learn first aid, a very very useful tool and one that should really be compulsory. Have a survival kit with some necessities incase you end up without your normal services, i.e. wind-up torches, food for 3 days, a first aid kit, potable water to last for at least 3 days, a battery powered radio etc etc. One day something big will happen and even if you don’t experience it at least you will have given your kids or partner or whatever a better chance of surviving. General Ashnak Post reply 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
ThinkingGuy!	5. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Jan 4 2007, 11:18 PM EST "It is very true that it is a true folly to believe that all we are currently privileged to have will be there forever. Get out into the country, go hiking, camping, white water rafting. Learn first aid, a very very useful tool and one that should really be compulsory. Have a survival kit with some necessities incase you end up without your normal services, i.e. wind-up torches, food for 3 days, a first aid kit, potable water to last for at least 3 days, a battery powered radio etc etc. One day something big will happen and even if you don’t experience it at least you will have given your kids or partner or whatever a better chance of surviving. General Ashnak" Amen, General! My office requires us to be trained every other year in CPR and First Aid.... everyone should know those skills. I have most of those items at home.... not in the car....though I should. I have only recently converted to having wind up lights and radios at home... they work very well and it helps if you run out of batteries or they die! Post reply 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
techie924	6. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Jan 5 2007, 9:40 AM EST \| Post edited: Jan 5 2007, 9:40 AM EST from reading this thread, i get the feeling that y'all think no young people are going to survive a disaster. we're not as unprepared as you might think. personally, im out there in the mountains hiking, i know how to shoot to hunt and shoot for defense. i have survival kits(with rations for two people for five days, a wind up/solar radio, a wind up flashlight, thermal blankets, siphon bag, water bag, glowsticks, basic tool kit (much more extensive kit in the truck)) in my truck and at home. i im not the only young person around here with those skills/that equipment around here. and a lot of young people are tougher than you might think. unfortunately, i live right next to DC (Alexandria, VA), so if we get nuked im screwed regardless. Post reply 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
secyatlaw	7. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Jan 6 2007, 12:06 PM EST Many of you are - but us urban dwellers? Accustomed to electricity and grocery stores a few blocks away? hmmmm. Glad to know SOME of y'all are ready! Post reply 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
General_Ashnak	8. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Jan 7 2007, 4:46 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 7 2007, 4:46 PM EST "from reading this thread, i get the feeling that y'all think no young people are going to survive a disaster. we're not as unprepared as you might think. personally, im out there in the mountains hiking, i know how to shoot to hunt and shoot for defense. i have survival kits(with rations for two people for five days, a wind up/solar radio, a wind up flashlight, thermal blankets, siphon bag, water bag, glowsticks, basic tool kit (much more extensive kit in the truck)) in my truck and at home. i im not the only young person around here with those skills/that equipment around here. and a lot of young people are tougher than you might think. unfortunately, i live right next to DC (Alexandria, VA), so if we get nuked im screwed regardless. " I wasn't suggesting "young people" are not going to survive, I am not yet 30 (though that makes me middle aged for an Orc!) and realistically it is the 15-50 age bracket who have the best chance of survival after any disaster. The children and the elderly are those most likely to die from illness, injury and extremes of weather. General Ashnak Post reply 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
General_Ashnak	9. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Jan 7 2007, 4:51 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 7 2007, 4:51 PM EST "Many of you are - but us urban dwellers? Accustomed to electricity and grocery stores a few blocks away? hmmmm. Glad to know SOME of y'all are ready!" I agree totally! I at least live in a backwater of a country (Australia) so it is unlikely that we are going to getted nuked, though as we are in the potential range of NK Taepadong (?) 2 missile I am not totally sure and will rely on the fact that they will nuke Japan first. General Ashnak Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
techie924	10. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Jan 7 2007, 8:20 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 7 2007, 8:20 PM EST "I agree totally! I at least live in a backwater of a country (Australia) so it is unlikely that we are going to getted nuked, though as we are in the potential range of NK Taepadong (?) 2 missile I am not totally sure and will rely on the fact that they will nuke Japan first. General Ashnak" actually, based on their past behavior, id say that they'd nuke the SEA of Japan first... Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
secyatlaw	11. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Jan 8 2007, 6:12 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 8 2007, 6:12 PM EST "True, but have you ever been through a diaster...that's what happens ,like it or not , people like to be numb to forget." Some people don't go to bars to drink; in the case of Mary Reilly's place, it's a place to gather together, find comfort and solace, not necessary forgetfulness. It has the satellite television feed. Most of the patrons do not appear to be drunk, IMHO. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
General_Ashnak	12. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Jan 8 2007, 7:25 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 8 2007, 7:25 PM EST "Some people don't go to bars to drink; in the case of Mary Reilly's place, it's a place to gather together, find comfort and solace, not necessary forgetfulness. It has the satellite television feed. Most of the patrons do not appear to be drunk, IMHO." True it has become a gathering place for the townspeople, it is just strange to see so many people in the bar. How are they paying Mary? There doesn't seem to be any active trading going on ... like the Kenchy from Rogue River, what is he providing Mary to sit in her bar all day? I guess he could be working at the hospital with April Green, but we really don't know what system for payment or barter is going on. I would be shocked if the hospital isn't charging for services as all their supplies will be dwindling very rapidly! General Ashnak Post reply Do you find this valuable?
secyatlaw	13. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Jan 9 2007, 4:45 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 9 2007, 4:45 PM EST "True it has become a gathering place for the townspeople, it is just strange to see so many people in the bar. How are they paying Mary? There doesn't seem to be any active trading going on ... like the Kenchy from Rogue River, what is he providing Mary to sit in her bar all day? I guess he could be working at the hospital with April Green, but we really don't know what system for payment or barter is going on. I would be shocked if the hospital isn't charging for services as all their supplies will be dwindling very rapidly! General Ashnak" Dear General Ashnak, I would hope the patrons of the bar are somehow bartering (but didn't seem like it during the last episode when Mary and Eric were taking inventory). This looks like a bit of a plot hole! The clinic/hospital must be keeping track of who it treats and what's utilized, but what good is money right now anyway? Gracie was the one individual most concerned with her profits and loss despite the collapse of the government/economic/intrastructure. The upcoming winter of great discontent promises to be fraught with survival issues. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
General_Ashnak	14. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Jan 9 2007, 5:07 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 9 2007, 5:07 PM EST "Dear General Ashnak, I would hope the patrons of the bar are somehow bartering (but didn't seem like it during the last episode when Mary and Eric were taking inventory). This looks like a bit of a plot hole! The clinic/hospital must be keeping track of who it treats and what's utilized, but what good is money right now anyway? Gracie was the one individual most concerned with her profits and loss despite the collapse of the government/economic/intrastructure. The upcoming winter of great discontent promises to be fraught with survival issues. " It definately sounds like a big black plot hole sucking in all light and commonsense ;) General Ashnak Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Posted Anonymously	15. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Feb 4 2007, 9:16 PM EST \| Post edited: Feb 4 2007, 9:16 PM EST why did you put quotes around the word terrorist? terrorists are evil terrorists! not freedom fighters! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
General_Ashnak	16. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Feb 5 2007, 12:19 AM EST "why did you put quotes around the word terrorist? terrorists are evil terrorists! not freedom fighters!" A terrorist is any group or individual, that is not a sovereign state, which engages in acts of violence whose sole aim is to destabalise the current socio-political state to such a degree that the only way in which to normalise the situation is to give in to some or all of the individual or groups demand. Thus terrorist and freedom fighter, we can also include insurectionist, are merely a matter of perspective. We are not villians in our own eyes, merely the eyes of our enemies. General Ashnak Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Posted Anonymously	17. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Feb 10 2007, 8:50 PM EST "actually, based on their past behavior, id say that they'd nuke the SEA of Japan first..." True, true HJ Post reply Do you find this valuable?
General_Ashnak	18. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Feb 11 2007, 5:37 PM EST "True, true HJ" We can hope! General Ashnak Post reply Do you find this valuable?
franfan	19. RE: Well, whatever's going on... Feb 12 2007, 4:17 PM EST I would agree that most Americans are truly unprepared for a dire emergency (i.e. Katrina). Most people are too reliant on our government, which, in a disaster has proven and will prove to be inept at dealing with the situation and protecting its citizens, to the point that we may well fall the way of some 3rd world country. Personally, speaking as an urbanite, I know, especially now that Im hooked on the show, that I am not ready for a disaster of any magnitude. In regards to the bartering system and whether it is a plot whole, I believe that the producers are purposely leaving wholes which get the fan community talking. They did say that they are monitering all the comments left and are keeping notes. I believe, as with other story lines, that several of them will be answered in episodes coming up as well as HOPEFUL subsequent seasons. Gotta have a story to tell to keep the show going right??? Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?

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