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Easily overrun??
Feb 14 2007, 9:29 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 14 2007, 9:29 PM EST
Is whoever wrote that kidding? The US has something like 30 million or so armed citizens with something like 100+ million weapons. Easily overrun, I think not. Why has every dictator confisaced all the weapons in a country as one of their first acts. The death toll to an invader of US soil would be millions. Go on all you anti gun nuts, let me have it. 28  out of 38 found this valuable. Do you?    
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1. RE: Easily overrun??
Feb 17 2007, 9:25 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 17 2007, 9:25 PM EST
I'm a republican and ALL FOR guns. Trust me! But just think: we've been nuked and have no formal leadership (that we know of). Secondly, mercenaries are running around for their own gain. Even with our guns, Other nations would see that we would be vunerable. Therefore, if there was to be an invasion, they would send in millions of troops. You would see Russians, North Koreans, Iranians, (possibly) Chinese, Venezuelans, and all the other nations that you know don't like us, running around tearing this land apart. Sure, we would give them hell, me right there with them. And sure, we would kill millions of them. But, with us in such a state, they would want us out of the way for good and make sure that happened. There death toll would be catastrophic, but so would ours. So, for a time, we would be overrun. In the end, however, we would kick their asses out of our land. If you don't agree, please tell me your theory. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

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2. RE: Easily overrun??
Mar 2 2007, 5:40 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2007, 5:40 AM EST
your forgetting one thing thing haveing a gun doesnot make you invincible.
just because you own a gun does not mean you can take on an army and win, if this were the case soilders would never need training just arming.
a small amount of soilders could take out a town even if every man woman and child was armed. also there would be many without the courage to step up and help, and many who would not care about anything else other that looking after their families.
all i have seen about guns so far is americans attacking americans with in fighting and chaos leaving many dead, without law and order and the added guns an invading force wouldn't need to push hard to take over and once they have done that it would be very easy to stay in control after they had killed the people who are a threat to them and removed arms from the rest, put others in P.O.W. camps and so on and so forth.
the best hope of not being taken over would come from remaining military and equipment still operational and assistance from the outside world who might be willing to help. if not the u.s. could just become another chech rep.
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Mar 4 2007, 7:32 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 4 2007, 7:32 AM EST
true. but also the fact that there is no communication from the emp. that would meen that there are seveeral little men and women with hand guns and shotguns dealing with artilery and tanks and missles and fully automatic assault rifles with no cordination what so ever. that would be like waving a handgun around when you are blind. the chance of you doing something to hender the enemy would be so slim that it won't do squat in the long run. Do you find this valuable?    

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Mar 5 2007, 8:40 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 5 2007, 8:40 AM EST
"true. but also the fact that there is no communication from the emp. that would meen that there are seveeral little men and women with hand guns and shotguns dealing with artilery and tanks and missles and fully automatic assault rifles with no cordination what so ever. that would be like waving a handgun around when you are blind. the chance of you doing something to hender the enemy would be so slim that it won't do squat in the long run."
Of course it's improbable that with our little hand guns we would stop the enemy advance. But once they've advanced as far as they could, we would be acustomed to seeing what kind of weapons they had where. We could adjust to that and start a war like what they had in "Red Dawn". Sure that was a movie, but could be done. And imagine if you had hundreds of groups like the wolverines all over the place?

HJ
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RichS
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5. RE: Easily overrun??
Mar 6 2007, 7:41 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 6 2007, 7:41 AM EST
You are correct in your assesment and I hope for their own sake the "anti-gun nuts" as you call them, I just call them "liberals", can see that having the right to bear arms is a good thing. especially in this type of senario. I do however, back a policy against illegal guns and guns to criminals, but we should all be able to bear arms if
we choose. Even if only in case of a worse case senario such as this.
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Mar 11 2007, 5:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 11 2007, 5:02 PM EDT
"You are correct in your assesment and I hope for their own sake the "anti-gun nuts" as you call them, I just call them "liberals", can see that having the right to bear arms is a good thing. especially in this type of senario. I do however, back a policy against illegal guns and guns to criminals, but we should all be able to bear arms if
we choose. Even if only in case of a worse case senario such as this."
Thats right. Criminals should be barred from ever seeing a gun again. But the average good american should have the right. Its only inevitable that somewhere in the world, maybe one day even us, that a bad guy is going to invade a good guy. If that country's military fails, then who is going to save it? It's going to have to be the average american that rises up to defend the nation. And if we lost the second amendment, then what are we going to do in the senario? Go grab our clubs and pitch forks and attack the guys with the automatic guns and tanks? We've seen it before that in times of crisis it's the citizen that has to get up and save their country. People will not stand for oppression, and they will fight. Someone said that when people see how out gunned they are they will run. But even if that is the case, if you have a good strategy, you can overwhelm them. Look at the mongols. In all their fights they were horribly outnumbered, but they always won. Why? They had an excellent strategy. And being that we know the terrain better than some foreign nation, we could develop strategies to win. So, americans should keep their guns. Otherwise, we might be met with some serious problems.

HJ
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gwhh
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7. RE: Easily overrun??
Feb 20 2008, 11:24 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 11:24 PM EST
A man with a gun is a citizen. The man without a gun is a subject! 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
gwhh
gwhh
8. RE: Easily overrun??
Feb 20 2008, 11:25 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 11:25 PM EST
"Of course it's improbable that with our little hand guns we would stop the enemy advance. But once they've advanced as far as they could, we would be acustomed to seeing what kind of weapons they had where. We could adjust to that and start a war like what they had in "Red Dawn". Sure that was a movie, but could be done. And imagine if you had hundreds of groups like the wolverines all over the place?

HJ"
Red Dawn is almost to real in how it show how most people would react to an invasion of the USA.
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tamijo
tamijo
9. RE: Easily overrun??
Feb 21 2008, 10:00 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 21 2008, 10:00 AM EST
yes small groups of people might be the most efective way to fight back they can hit and run and cause a lot of mayhem. they main worry would be pay back to the citizens as the goverment retaliates . I think a wolverine type effort would be worth a try Do you find this valuable?