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PARanger
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41. RE: Reality
Jul 21 2007, 5:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2007, 5:01 PM EDT
'green' is definitely a start, leaving a smaller ecological footprint will not only assist the economy, here at home, it will allow us to learn how to live beyond fossil fuel, thereby giving us (we the people) a few more tools in our toolbox should we need them (during or after an event that could can and will remove the stability of current fuel/power production and availability).
Go Greensburg !
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It'sHJ
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42. RE: Reality
Jul 21 2007, 7:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2007, 7:24 PM EDT
"Not everyone. Thanks to movies and such, many of us have a "romantic" view of the state."
Well it's good to know that there are people who do have such a view of the state. There was a certain NY Senator who said in an interview when answering a question, "Thats only found in Mississippi, and who the hell wants to live in Mississippi?" Boy, can you say outrage? The news stations that night opened with it as their top story, and we were furious!

Semper Fi

HJ
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43. RE: Reality
Jul 21 2007, 11:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 21 2007, 11:53 PM EDT
"Well it's good to know that there are people who do have such a view of the state. There was a certain NY Senator who said in an interview when answering a question, "Thats only found in Mississippi, and who the hell wants to live in Mississippi?" Boy, can you say outrage? The news stations that night opened with it as their top story, and we were furious!

Semper Fi

HJ"
I missed it. Do you know which state the senator lives or lived in?
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PARanger
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44. RE: Reality
Jul 22 2007, 7:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 22 2007, 7:20 PM EDT
"I missed it. Do you know which state the senator lives or lived in?"
A Democratic congressman from New York says he wasn’t trying to insult Mississippi in published remarks today, but a Republican colleague from Mississippi says Rep. Charles Rangel should apologize to the state.

Rangel, D-N.Y., was quoted in an article today in The New York Times, saying: “Mississippi gets more than their fair share back in federal money, but who the hell wants to live in Mississippi?”

Rep. Chip Pickering, R-Miss., issued a news release criticizing Rangel’s words.
“I hope his remarks are not the kind of insults, slander, and defamation that Mississippians will come to expect from the Democrat leadership in Washington, D.C.,” Pickering said.

Elbert Garcia, Rangel’s press secretary in New York, said Rangel had received calls Thursday about the Mississippi quote.

Garcia e-mailed The Associated Press a response from Rangel: “I certainly don’t mean to offend anyone, I just love New York so much that I can’t understand why everyone wouldn’t want to live here.”

Rangel is the ranking Democrat on Ways and Means, and is in line to become chairman of the powerful tax-writing committee. The New York Times article was about how the New York congressional delegation gained political clout in the midterm elections.

Rangel said, among other things, that he wants to direct more federal money to his state.

U.S. Rep. Gene Taylor, D-Miss., said he believes Mississippi will be treated fairly by Rangel and other Democratic leaders. As for Pickering’s question of whether Democrats could hurt the state, Taylor said: “That’s Chip.”

Pickering was elected to the House in 1996 and for the first time will be a member of the minority party in Congress.
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It'sHJ
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45. RE: Reality
Jul 22 2007, 8:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 22 2007, 8:23 PM EDT
"A Democratic congressman from New York says he wasn’t trying to insult Mississippi in published remarks today, but a Republican colleague from Mississippi says Rep. Charles Rangel should apologize to the state.

Rangel, D-N.Y., was quoted in an article today in The New York Times, saying: “Mississippi gets more than their fair share back in federal money, but who the hell wants to live in Mississippi?”

Rep. Chip Pickering, R-Miss., issued a news release criticizing Rangel’s words.
“I hope his remarks are not the kind of insults, slander, and defamation that Mississippians will come to expect from the Democrat leadership in Washington, D.C.,” Pickering said.

Elbert Garcia, Rangel’s press secretary in New York, said Rangel had received calls Thursday about the Mississippi quote.

Garcia e-mailed The Associated Press a response from Rangel: “I certainly don’t mean to offend anyone, I just love New York so much that I can’t understand why everyone wouldn’t want to live here.”

Rangel is the ranking Democrat on Ways and Means, and is in line to become chairman of the powerful tax-writing committee. The New York Times article was about how the New York congressional delegation gained political clout in the midterm elections.

Rangel said, among other things, that he wants to direct more federal money to his state.

U.S. Rep. Gene Taylor, D-Miss., said he believes Mississippi will be treated fairly by Rangel and other Democratic leaders. As for Pickering’s question of whether Democrats could hurt the state, Taylor said: “That’s Chip.”

Pickering was elected to the House in 1996 and for the first time will be a member of the minority party in Congress."
Thank you for showing that article. I got the quote off a little bit, my bad. Still, there were a good few furious Mississippians, I can assure you! That guy can go to you-know-where!

Semper Fi

HJ
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46. RE: Reality
Jul 23 2007, 1:10 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 23 2007, 1:10 AM EDT
"A Democratic congressman from New York says he wasn’t trying to insult Mississippi in published remarks today, but a Republican colleague from Mississippi says Rep. Charles Rangel should apologize to the state.

Rangel, D-N.Y., was quoted in an article today in The New York Times, saying: “Mississippi gets more than their fair share back in federal money, but who the hell wants to live in Mississippi?”

Rep. Chip Pickering, R-Miss., issued a news release criticizing Rangel’s words.
“I hope his remarks are not the kind of insults, slander, and defamation that Mississippians will come to expect from the Democrat leadership in Washington, D.C.,” Pickering said.

Elbert Garcia, Rangel’s press secretary in New York, said Rangel had received calls Thursday about the Mississippi quote.

Garcia e-mailed The Associated Press a response from Rangel: “I certainly don’t mean to offend anyone, I just love New York so much that I can’t understand why everyone wouldn’t want to live here.”

Rangel is the ranking Democrat on Ways and Means, and is in line to become chairman of the powerful tax-writing committee. The New York Times article was about how the New York congressional delegation gained political clout in the midterm elections.

Rangel said, among other things, that he wants to direct more federal money to his state.

U.S. Rep. Gene Taylor, D-Miss., said he believes Mississippi will be treated fairly by Rangel and other Democratic leaders. As for Pickering’s question of whether Democrats could hurt the state, Taylor said: “That’s Chip.”

Pickering was elected to the House in 1996 and for the first time will be a member of the minority party in Congress."
GOOD GRIEF, CHARLIE BROWN - CAN'T THEY PLAY NICE?! I am SOOO tired of politicians and their egos, greed, and self-serving attitudes! Will it EVER get any better?!
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47. RE: Reality
Jul 23 2007, 1:12 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 23 2007, 1:12 AM EDT
"Thank you for showing that article. I got the quote off a little bit, my bad. Still, there were a good few furious Mississippians, I can assure you! That guy can go to you-know-where!

Semper Fi

HJ"
A whole lot of them could! I wouldn't cry for them.
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It'sHJ
It'sHJ
48. RE: Reality
Jul 23 2007, 11:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 23 2007, 11:17 AM EDT
"A whole lot of them could! I wouldn't cry for them. "
Me neither! I wonder how many senators actually work for the better of the people rather than their own personal agendas? Propable few to none!

Semper Fi

HJ
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PARanger
PARanger
49. RE: Reality
Jul 23 2007, 2:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 23 2007, 2:12 PM EDT
In reality, I believe that many are dedicated to self promotion and that gives us "we the people' the ability to request what we will, and they should (if they really want to promote themselves) comply.
Be Hospitable, play nice, not a primary objective, but we can make it one through standing up for our views.
There is a great ability afforded the American people through the 'checks and balances' procedures, unfortunately, many of us are too apathetic or 'busy' to pay atttention. Those of us who do are a small minority any more, to me, that is the true cause of corruption in government and can only be remedied by a mass effort of empowerment.....
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50. RE: Reality
Jul 23 2007, 6:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 23 2007, 6:20 PM EDT
"Me neither! I wonder how many senators actually work for the better of the people rather than their own personal agendas? Propable few to none!

Semper Fi

HJ"
I agree!
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51. RE: Reality
Jul 23 2007, 6:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 23 2007, 6:39 PM EDT
"In reality, I believe that many are dedicated to self promotion and that gives us "we the people' the ability to request what we will, and they should (if they really want to promote themselves) comply.
Be Hospitable, play nice, not a primary objective, but we can make it one through standing up for our views.
There is a great ability afforded the American people through the 'checks and balances' procedures, unfortunately, many of us are too apathetic or 'busy' to pay atttention. Those of us who do are a small minority any more, to me, that is the true cause of corruption in government and can only be remedied by a mass effort of empowerment....."
You are SO right ! It's the money and power they are after. And they get political donations because those who donate want someone who will look out for their interests. (in other words:"buy a politican" type of attitude) They will "honor" our wishes if it benefits them (falls within their plans) but claim they did it "for the people". You're also correct that we need to stand up for ourselves - by calling, e-mailing, snail-mailing them and/or having opinion letters published in local news papers, etc. Let them know we are watching, Praise them if they do something right. Complain to them (privately or publicly) if they screw up. If as many people were to get involved with government as did with JERICHO, we would DEFINATELY make a difference ! Shame we can't get that kind of passion directed at politics.
Yes, we are apathetic. For so long we have been told "Your government will take care of you, keep you safe, etc." that we just gave up and let them "babysit" us. Which worked for them. How many bills have they passed withour our knowledge? How many laws that could effect us have they passed without our permission? How many are harmful to the public in general? I could go on and on. It would take something REALLY BIG, to kick some sense into us.
I fear we may see just that !
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Sandbagger
Sandbagger
52. RE: Reality
Jul 23 2007, 10:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 23 2007, 10:12 PM EDT
"Please DO NOT RESPOND TO "RACISM." This topic has been discussed and officially closed. "
THANK YOU,
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ginbud
53. RE: Reality
Jul 24 2007, 12:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2007, 12:12 PM EDT
I think we have experienced several crisis in the U.S. within the last six years that, if anything, should have kicked some sense into us. Perhaps we feel so powerless to affect a change, that we believe nothing we do will make a difference on the governmental level. In the wake of 9/11 we handed our government so much power to "do something," that in effect we gave the President Carte Blanch to do as he and his men deemed fit. To a great degree we have diminished our check and balance system by allowing so much power to rest in one mans hands. Now our politicians are having a hard time overcoming anything that is being passed, and hidden by the "Patriotic Act." The backlash from this feeling of powerlessness was the overwhelming power handed to the Democrats in the last election. Even Republicans were upset with the government and how the public's voice was ignored. I wonder if the reason so many people became fascinated with Jericho is because they feel deep in their soul that they may be watching what could happen to the U.S in the near future? Maybe we could, right here on this page, demonstrate to ourselves that we do have the power to affect a change within the Government by involving ourselves with the visionary plan to try to make Greensberg a new green city. This Governor needs support and ideas from many to recognize that her idea is supported from many outside the normal framework of Government circles. She will be told what can't be done vs. what can be done. She will need support, support, support. If she does not get it, the dream will slowly disapate like so many deams do. If it happens, and we did nothing,we will all know within our little group that we had a chance and didn't take it. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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54. RE: Reality
Jul 24 2007, 2:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 24 2007, 2:07 PM EDT
Yes, it is VERY possible that the reason people are so enthralled with JERICHO is that they (we) see it as a possible future of our country. With all the corruption and "the government getting too big for their britches" problems we are now facing, that is a very real possibility. And with the political "hopefuls"we have been given to choose from, (on BOTH sides)it's even more frightening! They are all losers! Some worse than others. Well, we need to enjoy JERICHO as long as we can, we may not be watching much tv soon. (Unless it is "state" run) Keep on Truckin' ! 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
It'sHJ
It'sHJ
55. RE: Reality
Jul 25 2007, 11:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 25 2007, 11:24 PM EDT
"Yes, it is VERY possible that the reason people are so enthralled with JERICHO is that they (we) see it as a possible future of our country. With all the corruption and "the government getting too big for their britches" problems we are now facing, that is a very real possibility. And with the political "hopefuls"we have been given to choose from, (on BOTH sides)it's even more frightening! They are all losers! Some worse than others. Well, we need to enjoy JERICHO as long as we can, we may not be watching much tv soon. (Unless it is "state" run) Keep on Truckin' !"
I can also agree that Jericho is nothing short of a "documentary" of what is to come. And our Presidential candidates are not helping the situation at all. And this election will be one of the most critical in US history, and watch us end up with a whimp in office! We truely are in a crisis!


Semper Fi

HJ
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ginbud
56. RE: Reality
Jul 27 2007, 2:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 27 2007, 2:58 PM EDT
With the doomsday future we are predicting, we should all buy a ham radio and learn how to use it. If all was shut down, this would be a good tool to have on hand. Somehow we would have to create the juice to run it. We are falling deep into the political pit, is this where we want to keep heading? 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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57. RE: Reality
Jul 27 2007, 5:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 27 2007, 5:02 PM EDT
"I can also agree that Jericho is nothing short of a "documentary" of what is to come. And our Presidential candidates are not helping the situation at all. And this election will be one of the most critical in US history, and watch us end up with a whimp in office! We truely are in a crisis!


Semper Fi

HJ"
I SO TOTALLY AGREE! TOTALLY!
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58. RE: Reality
Jul 27 2007, 5:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 27 2007, 5:19 PM EDT
"With the doomsday future we are predicting, we should all buy a ham radio and learn how to use it. If all was shut down, this would be a good tool to have on hand. Somehow we would have to create the juice to run it. We are falling deep into the political pit, is this where we want to keep heading?"
No, of course it's not where we want to be heading, but we must be realistic. If you watch the news, listen to what the hopefuls say, when they state their proposed policies (for those that have done so), the greed of gas/oil, power, insurance, health field, etc. , it really doesn't look good.The rich are getting richer, the poor, poorer. Companies are sending production/services overseas/out of the country for lower paid employees and a greater profit margin. Leaving us with fewer "living wage" jobs. We can't count on them to keep our country stable, that's for sure. Our country's future is looking bleaker every day. And with the type of people who are running for President, what can we hope for?
As for the ham radios, that is a great idea. It may be the only way to communicate over long distances for a while. CB radios would also be useful for shorter distances, as long as we keep auto batteries up. It would be nice if there was at least one ham in each county, with generator power. Of course, we can always pray that whoever DOES get in office, sees the light and actually works to make the country safer and better. Huh?
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It'sHJ
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59. RE: Reality
Jul 27 2007, 11:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 27 2007, 11:02 PM EDT
"No, of course it's not where we want to be heading, but we must be realistic. If you watch the news, listen to what the hopefuls say, when they state their proposed policies (for those that have done so), the greed of gas/oil, power, insurance, health field, etc. , it really doesn't look good.The rich are getting richer, the poor, poorer. Companies are sending production/services overseas/out of the country for lower paid employees and a greater profit margin. Leaving us with fewer "living wage" jobs. We can't count on them to keep our country stable, that's for sure. Our country's future is looking bleaker every day. And with the type of people who are running for President, what can we hope for?
As for the ham radios, that is a great idea. It may be the only way to communicate over long distances for a while. CB radios would also be useful for shorter distances, as long as we keep auto batteries up. It would be nice if there was at least one ham in each county, with generator power. Of course, we can always pray that whoever DOES get in office, sees the light and actually works to make the country safer and better. Huh?"
That would be nice. Doubt it will happen, but a nice thought.

Semper Fi

HJ
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60. RE: Reality
Jul 28 2007, 12:18 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 28 2007, 12:18 AM EDT
"That would be nice. Doubt it will happen, but a nice thought.

Semper Fi

HJ"
Yeah! Even realists can pretend sometimes. To escape for a while, you know!? And I AM on vacation. We need to do it while we can. There may not be too many more chances.
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